Sam Payne: News

9-year-old Ellie DeGroot and her sister, Kate, interviewed storytellers at the Timpanogos Storytelling Festival. Their cool article appeared in the Deseret News on September 4.

It was a pleasure to contribute to this "How-to" article written by Cody Clark of the Daily Herald. The request came relative to my upcoming performance in the Timpanogos Storytelling Festival. Can't tell you how much I love that. Click here to read the article.

Such a pleasure to be invited to tell at the Timpanogos Storytelling Festival this year. Here's a Deseret News article that features an interview with me. Click here to read the article.

Sam was interviewed by Nicole Sheahan of Mormon Times.  The posted interview dwells on a trip he took with Mindy Gledhill to Bulgaria, a humanitarian trip sponsored by One Heart Bulgaria. You can find the interview here.

Rebecca Cressman does a weekly interview segment called "A Personal Touch," broadcast from (among other places), YourLDSneighborhood.com. She interviewed Kevin Peay and Sam about their friendship with Earl Madsen, who passed away in December. Find the interview here.

Greg Hansen had Sam in the studio for an interview on YourLDSradio's New Music Show. The interview is in two parts, and broadcast on July 28 and August 4. You can find the interview in the YLDSR archives here.

Jason Anderson sent this link to some comments made about Sam and Russ Dixon by Angie Larsen of Good Things Utah fame. Kind words, Angie! Thanks for passing them along, Jason! http://www.abc4.com/content/blogs/angielarsen/story/Angie-Larsen-The-Green-Room-Where-Magic-Happens/khjeXBGq3k-BfsqlC-Dutg.cspx

Sam joined Russ Dixon on Good things Utah for this lovely lullaby. They were there to promote "Living for Eden, the concert to benefit Paul Cardall, who needs a new heart. To find out more about the concert, visit www.livingforeden.com.

Sam is the program director for YourLDSRadio, which just launched a blog today. Check it out by clicking the button!

Let it suffice to say that for one reason or another, I found myself in Bulgaria a few weeks ago. Together with Mindy Gledhill (the remarkable songwriter whose music you can hear right here at YLDSR.com), I was a musical guest of One Heart Bulgaria, a non-profit foundation organized to benefit Bulgaria’s orphans (visit them at www.oneheart-bg.org). We visited orphanages in cities and towns, and met orphans young and old – charismatic, tough kids who have learned to lean on each other and survive, under circumstances every bit as difficult as you might imagine. It was a rich experience – once-in-a-lifetime.

And while we were deeply thankful for the experience, I found myself wondering (when it came to providing service for orphans with genuine needs) if a couple of musicians were the right folks for the job. I mean, good heavens, it was a pleasure to be there as a musician, but for the same energy it took to get a couple of musicians here, they could have brought a couple of dentists, or surgeons. I wrestled often with that notion during the trip.

But then I’d pull out my guitar, and Mindy and I would strike up a song. Sometimes it would be “I Am a Child of God,” and sometimes it would be Mindy’s lovely ballad, “Child of Light.” Sometimes it would be something so innocuous as Bobby McFerrin’s “Don’t Worry, Be Happy” (which the orphans all knew, by the way. Go figure). We’d sing for the orphans, and then the orphans would sing for us – Bulgarian patriotic songs, nursery rhymes, or Mediterranean pop tunes.

In those moments, the world became both bigger and smaller – bigger as the world of one’s experience expands to make room for new friends, and smaller as the world shrinks in the face of meeting people that, by all rights, ought to be more different than they suddenly seem.

In those moments, as a musician, I allowed myself to believe that maybe, for a moment, the exercises of fixing teeth, mending bones, and curing disease could be approached in import (not rivaled, perhaps, but at least approached) by the exercise of understanding hearts. In that endeavor, music is a crash-course. In his seminal 1979 address, “The Arts and the Spirit of the Lord, Boyd K. Packer said it this way: “…we are able to feel and learn very quickly through music, through art, through poetry some spiritual things that we would otherwise learn very slowly.” Amen to that. In Bulgaria, as musicians, we were quick learners (also, I think, quick teachers). To a greater degree than I might have thought possible, we get them. And they get us.

I’m naturally wary of a lot of the “art is going to save the world” propaganda that gets tossed around, but I’ve come to believe, at least, that the right music is perhaps the surest way to characterize and communicate the condition of a heart. I’m careful not to extrapolate too much from that belief – I mean, when a bone gets broken, there’s little use in trying to sing it whole again. But when it comes to achieving understanding between two different souls, I say put down the scalpel, and strike up the band.

Mindy Gledhill's terrific catalog of albums--"The Sum of All Grace" and "Feather in the Wind"--is characterized by poetic, substantive songwriting, hard-hitting, emotive performances, and dynamite production. She and Sam, together with Peter Breinholt, are headed for Bulgaria next week as ambassadors for "One Heart Bulgaria," an organization established to benefit Bulgaria's orphans. Mindy featured Sam on her blog this week. Come read! Just click the button.

Salt Lake City, Utah (November 3, 2008) A new online radio station aimed at LDS listeners offering upbeat contemporary music will debut today on the web at www.yourLDSradio.com. The new station is part of the burgeoning music division associated with the yourLDSneighborhood.com concept launched in 2007 by Salt Lake entrepreneur Gaylen Rust. Noted poet, singer, songwriter and radio station host Sam Payne is the program director. Much like a commercial radio station, when listeners click on the station, they will hear a live stream of songs from a playlist featuring hundreds of tracks. Listeners will also have the option of hearing “on demand” pre-recorded programs such as Steven Kapp Perry’s Cricket and Seagull program, Greg Hansen’s 10-minute New Artist Show, or Payne’s folksy Radio Family Journal – a Garrison Keillor-type monologue from the heartland of Utah. Each is updated weekly with new material. Payne said the music “will be chosen at first from among songs that are already making the biggest impact in the cultural LDS listening experience. This is ‘A’ material. We want to build a relationship of trust with positive music. It will cover many genres, but our primary focus is LDS contemporary.” Rust said he hopes the station attracts a worldwide audience and also generates appreciation for a broad range of music with positive lyrics. “That’s the beauty of an online radio station. It can be heard anytime, anywhere. Most connect inspirational music with the LDS experience. While that’s fine, many just don’t know about the ‘common every-day’ music being produced by LDS artists. It isn’t being heard because there few opportunities to connect these artists with those who appreciate a variety of music outside the devotional format. Hopefully the radio station will be a catalyst for that.” Built into the web site is a discussion board where listeners can request songs, rate the music or make comments about the programming. Visitors looking for additional music options can also check out The Neighborhood Jukebox at www.yourLDSneighborhood.com/jukebox where hundreds of songs are available for listening. Payne said as far as he knows “this is the only online radio station of its kind and magnitude” catering exclusively to the LDS audience. Advertisers will be able to purchase air time on the station as program sponsors. For more information about advertising contact sales@yourLDSradio.com The target audience is anyone who likes and enjoys positive LDS music, according to Payne. And Rust adds that emerging artists featured on the New Artist Show will be mainstreamed into the playlist if their songs become popular so the station could become a launching pad for music careers.

Click here to buy "Father to Son," the new album: _______________________________

Audiences have been asking at the merch table for the album "with the stories on it." Recorded for an intimate studio audience, this is the album. It includes stripped-down, full band acoustic performances of the best of old and new Sam Payne originals, along with the stories that accompany the songs, just as I tell them live. The musicians on the album are my long-time band mates, along with special guests Peter Breinholt and Cherie Call. If you're among those who have been waiting for this album, the wait is over. If you're wondering where to start getting acquainted with My music, this is the place.

Here are a couple of moments from our American Fork Amphitheater show. Josh Payne on guitar, Ryan Tilby on bass, Nic Chamberlain on drums. Lovely summer evening.

I heard a radio interview once with an author who had written a book about deep-sea treasure divers—guys who pulled up artifacts from shipwrecks for a living. The author kept emphasizing the perilous adventure of his story by saying “remember, there are a thousand ways that the sea can kill you.” I heard that line maybe a dozen times over the course of the interview. I bought the book, and he says the same thing a number of times there. I hadn’t thought of it in a long time, until I heard another interview the other day, with an author who had written a book about cowboys working oil-rigs in Wyoming. She said a similar thing in her interview. “Wyoming has a hundred different ways to kill you,” she said. I suppose it’s true that fate could take a person in any number of ways—and does. More ways, even, than it’s easy to list. People pass on jumping out of airplanes, stung by poisonous bugs, crushed by giant bales of hay, rolling cars into canyon ravines, battling brain tumors, running out of gas in the winter wilderness, pulled into giant tornadoes, and more, and neither riches, nor fame, nor even clean living seem to insulate any of us with any kind of certainty. There are no guarantees. We’re pretty fragile, when it comes down to it. And with a thousand different ways to die, doesn’t it make sense to choose a fulfilling way, in the next few moments, to live? After all, there must be a million of those.

The choir concert was over, and just outside the auditorium doors sat a stack of unused choir programs. My dad, there to see his grandson sing, took one of the sheets, and on his way across the lobby, folded it into a paper airplane. It was the paper airplane of his generation—long, and sleek with narrow wings. He looked at me and launched it out across the lobby. It was a good enough flight—maybe forty feet. I walked back to the table and took a program of my own. It was time to show the old man up. Mine was the paper airplane of my generation—Clean lines, snub nose, wide wings. My flight covered about forty feet, and my plane skidded to a stop, right next to Dad’s. In the end, each of us has his own way of doing things—making paper airplanes or raising families or making a living in the world. And we’re often quick to argue the virtues of our own way over the other guy’s. But in the end, we tend to cross the finish line in about the same amount of time, having covered about the same distance. And maybe it’s enough to say that when we retrieved the planes from the floor, dad picked up not his own plane, but mine, and I his. I don’t know what he did with mine, but I went home and carefully unfolded his, and spent some thoughtful moments learning how to make it.

I turned on the Oscars for a minute last night, just in time to see "Falling Slowly" win the award for best song. I understand that "Enchanted" is terrific, and that "Falling Slowly"--through sheer airplay--may (sadly) be well on the way to becoming a cliche of itself, but man, Hansard and Irglova's performance was heartbreaking and unaffected, and Irglova's "fair play to those who dare to dream," may be the loveliest thing I've ever heard anyone say at that podium (Kudos to Jon Stewart for stopping the show long enough for her to come back and say it).

God bless musicians.

P.S. Watch it for yourself. Here's the URL (I'd embed it, but embedding on that vid has been disabled).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8yLvb0gZM

We had a wonderful season touring "The Gift" with my friends Ryan Shupe and Peter Breinholt. It made for a very merry Christmas. Thanks to all who came (there were plenty of you, and we're unspeakably grateful). Hope you had a terrific season, too. God Bless you, every one!

My little sister, Eliza, makes amazing songs and then (with the aid of a tiny little camera, a nifty hand-held monopod, and a friend) makes music videos of them. Her songs will--how you say--blow your mind!

As gigging musicians, my friends and I play a lot of weddings. It’s our bread and butter, actually—steadier work for musicians than just about any other kind of show. We’ve seen and done some interesting stuff down in the wedding trenches. One time, we played for a big wedding at the Art Museum downtown, held midway through the run of an exhibit of rare antique hats. As the evening progressed, and people began to loosen up and dance, we noticed these terrific hats cropping up on the heads of some members of the tuxedoed wedding party. Man, cool hats, we thought, I wonder where in town they found those. Then it occurred to us to look around the museum exhibit, and with a shock of horror notice an increasing number of empty hat display stands. On another evening, we played for a wedding party full of old folks and young folks, all hanging around to hear the music. One young man asked elderly aunt so-and-so to dance, and they cut a rug right there in front of us—that is, until the young man got carried away and deeply dipped his aged aunt and her wig fell off. The inadvertent trashing of museum exhibits and the doffing of hairpieces will become the legendary family-gathering stories of families all over the state, and we’re there to see many of them. We seldom say much about them—just keep playing music through thick and thin. We played a wedding not long ago in which they asked me to be what amounted to the sound guy during their ring ceremony, performed on the dance floor right in front of the band setup. The family and friends of the bride and groom formed a circle around them, and the bride and groom exchanged rings and vows. They were both laughing and crying tears of joy at the same time, and I found myself watching the circle of smiling onlookers. There, next to the bride and groom, was the bride’s sister and her husband, a few years older than the newlyweds, she with a baby girl on her hip and he holding the hand of a young boy. Next to them were the bride’s parents. Both of them were battle-weary from a long day, but they were holding hands, the patriarch and matriarch of this whole clan. Mom was smiling, and dad was somber and misty-eyed. Down the line was another sister of the bride’s, freshly engaged to the young man standing next to her, engaged, as we found out, only the day before. Their youthful faces were full of the bright anticipation of future days. There were others in the circle too, but I kept watching the family—and I don’t know how to explain this exactly except to say that they seemed for a moment to be one person—the younger sister, and the bride, and the older sister, and the mother—one person that I was allowed to see at different points on the path: freshly engaged, wearing the ring, holding the child, and looking back at her adult children. And at each place, the person believes that that place is all there is—each of them feeling so much, living such a rich moment, that that moment seems like the only moment. Right now, in this moment, I’m the father of a growing family. I have three sons in this moment. There is a guitar in this moment, and a radio microphone. In this moment, there’s a mortgage. There’s church work to be done. And this moment often seems like the only moment. I guess there’s something to be said for that. But in some other moment, I was in high school. I was stronger and faster in that moment, and more naïve. There was a moment when I held Kristie’s hand not as her husband of thirteen years, but as a kid mustering up the courage to ask her to marry me. There will sometime be a moment where I lift a baby grandchild in my arms. There is quite a different me in each of those places on the path, and if I were to get all those guys together, I wonder what we’d talk about. I wonder what we could tell each other—what dangers we could warn each other of; what beauties we could call each other’s attention to. And maybe most importantly, what responsibilities we have to one another. One thing’s for sure. I wouldn’t mind wearing, in any moment, the look passed around the circle by the family of the bride that evening—the look that melted away eventually into dancing, accompanied by the music of an enthusiastic and ever more pensive band.

Much of the time, of course, everything is a mess. Nothing turns out like you figured, and your best-laid plans all blow up in your face. But sometimes, just sometimes…well, take Jason Alex. Nine years old. Autistic. On the neighborhood basketball team. I watched a lot of games in which Jason Alex got pretty cleanly passed by as his teammates pounded back and forth, up and down the court. I watched some tears shed over it. Tough to watch. Felt too much like life.

But there was that one time. Kids all knotted up together, wrestling for the ball in one corner of the court—Jason Alex on the outside. Suddenly, the ball pops out of the huddle like a bar of soap; and right into the bewildered hands of Jason Alex. Behind him thunder two whole teams of nine-year-olds, rabid for the ball. He beats them to the basket by just a few steps—enough time to get a shot off, and it's bedlam on the sidelines. Jason Alex flings the ball in the air. Up it goes, and the teams freeze. On the sidelines, no one can breathe. Down comes the ball, in impossible slow-motion it seems, and…clunk, clunk, in. The sidelines go berserk. The ref's whistle falls out of his mouth. The nine-year-olds get busy again, passing the ball in and roaring down the court. Jason Alex himself turns toward the sidelines—toward his mom and dad. His hands are stretched out, and he's laughing, and big, happy tears are rolling down his cheeks. Yeah, a lot of the time nothing goes like it ought to. But sometimes…sometimes.

(Hey visitors! This interview is from a terrific music blog kept up by Spencer Williams in the Philadelphia area. I've discovered a lot of great acts on his site. There's a link to it on my "Links" page)


Sam Payne, a singer/songwriter, from Alpine, UT has a knack for words and music not to mention a ton of talent. When put together it becomes a musical journey worth taking. He has traveled across the U.S. performing his music that focuses in on his love for jazz and folk music. He has released "Railroad Blessing" and with the Sam Payne Project, "Coming Just to Go." In the next couple of weeks, we'll be checking out his CD's, but for now I had the chance to ask him a few questions about all sorts of random. As you are reading, check out his MySpace page where you can get to know his music a little bit better.

Interview:

Full given name:
Samuel Leland Payne. The "Leland" is the name of my late grandfather, who came up to central Utah from the Mexican colonies when Pancho Villa rode through. In the thirties, he found his way to California, and photographed cartoons for Walt Disney.

Hometown:
Alpine, Utah. My Dad escaped LA and came there in the early 1970s. People thought he was nuts, since there was no way on Earth a person could make a living in Utah as a folk singer. It cost him the relationship with his in-laws. But he sort of felt like the town musician was the community medicine man. LA was no community, and it was too bonkers to make good medicine. Also, he wanted to raise a family.

MAC or PC?
Mac mackity mac-mac. This is anecdotal for sure, but I broke down and bought a PC once (primarily for my kids). Junk-ola. Maybe I just got a lemon.

Favorite post-show meal:
I've put down a lot of cereal and milk in the wee hours. There's also a 7-eleven between the city and my house that makes a mean hot dog. Tragically, where I live the places for good eats are usually closed by the time the show's wrapped, and Denny's doesn't draw me like it used to.

Pre-show rituals:
I find a minute in a place by myself, and I pray. Also, if it's a multi-band show or a festival or something like that, I like to spend the time before our set out in the audience. I'm partly interested in seeing the other bands, but I'm much more interested in being out among the people who are going to hear us. I check them out, looking for a good sense of what brand of energy we're up against. If it were a play or something, I'd be dedicated to maintaining the illusion of character by staying backstage before curtain, but as a musician I'm just me. No illusion to maintain. I like to hang with the audience as much as I can.

Worst onstage mishap:
A couple of knocked-over mic stands. No big. My fiddle player occasionally reminds me that my fly is down, but it's usually before we go onstage. A couple of gigs ago, a pair of teenage girls asked if they could come up on stage and scat. I waved them up, but when I handed the mic over to one of them, she made a noise like Daryl Hannah makes in "Splash." I used to have a good relationship with that sound guy. I've now got a strict no-handing-the-mic-to-pubescent-would-be-scatters rule. At least when I'm playing through Joe Anderson's stuff.

Special skills:
I can suck a soda bottle onto my lips, and then slide it onto my cheek and up around my temple and into the center of my forehead without losing the suction, and then hang it there. Also, I worked at a Childrens Museum for a few years, and can make animal hats out of poster-board like no other.

Last book you read:
I'm always halfway through a dozen books. Thought Life of Pi was a kick. I keep coming back to My Name is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok. Chick Corea is quick to credit "Dianetics" in his liner notes. To each his own, I guess. My own is "Asher Lev." Any artist in any idiom oughtta own that book.

Favorite magazine:
I don't make much time to read magazines, but "National Geographic" keeps coming to my house, and my mom always has the latest "Utne Reader" in the bathroom.

Must-see TV show:
I watch a lot of DVD's, but I haven't had TV reception in my house for about a decade. Happiest decade of my life. iTunes is killin' me though. A guy at work got me hooked on "LOST." Wrong show to get hooked on--it's been pretty inane for a long time. But I'm hooked. What can you do? I'm also a closet "Office" downloader. And, of course, I've got a soft spot for "The Simpsons"--hands-down the most literate show on TV (says the guy who hasn't had TV in the last decade).

Last good movie you saw:
I liked the Will Ferrell film "Stranger than Fiction" a lot. I saw it in the middle of seeing a lot of Albert Brooks films on DVD ("Defending Your Life," "Looking for Comedy in the Muslim World," etc.), and it seemed somehow of a piece with those movies. Actually, the last good movie I saw was on DVD--an old one: "Lawrence of Arabia." The girl at the video rental place handed me a coupon. Truth is, I'm not very often in the mood to see the greatest movies ever made (usually I wind up watching "Waking Ned Devine" again), but since it was free, I rented "Lawrence" (which I had never seen) and also "Casablanca" (which I still haven't seen). I had already seen "Citizen Kane."

Favorite place you have lived:
That old Alpine house I grew up in. You never get your childhood house back. Ours was a little pioneer-era (1870s) stucco affair on a big yard, butted up against fields (and beyond that, mountains). My three brothers and I shared an attic bedroom. My mom sold that house a decade ago, and it was like losing a relative. We've since been back (my sis got married in the front yard), to find that the home's current owner has restored it with such care that it's like a resurrection. We only met that guy once before he bought the place, but a decade later he still refers to the bedrooms by our names.

First concert ever saw:
As a kid, seeing shows would have been an extravagance. I saw my first concert in college. Ellis Marsalis at Berkley. I went with my grandparents, and they wanted to leave halfway through. I was riveted, though. Jazz was still a novelty for me then.

If you could go back in time and catch any concert, what would it be?
Keith Jarret's Koln concert (I can't remember how to type an oumlat, or for that matter how to spell oumlat). I've gone back and forth on that album, and I'd like to see the performance in its cultural context. That's another album that seeped into my childhood on LP, played mostly by my folks in the living room when we were going to sleep upstairs.

Current band/musician (besides yourself) you have been recommending to your friends:
I've been telling people about Brandi Carlile lately. She's got this cracking-her-voice-by-out-singing her range trick that I think she plays once too often, and as a songwriter she's sort of a poor-man's Patty Griffin, but her voice at its best (which is almost all the time) is this grand, huge thing that I'm positively crazy for, and the way she puts songs together has deep roots--she seems to know where she's from in a way that I wish I did. Also she plays a guitar that sounds a lot like the Taylor 710 I just bought from a guy who had loved it through and through. I've listened to her self-titled disc over and over.

Most played song on your iPod:
Maybe "Long Ride Home" by Patty Griffin. That album ("1,000 Kisses") just kills me. Or maybe "Wartime Prayers" by Paul Simon, from "Surprise" (an album I read described as "achingly rational"). There's a local artist, a friend of mine, named Drew Williams, who wrote a tune called "Coming Home" about the passing of his grandfather, and recorded it with "The Tilby-Williams band." Gentle little thing. I listen to that a lot too.

Favorite song:
"Grapefruit Moon" by Tom Waits. It's on the "Closing Time" album, which was from that early, early period that Waits has distanced himself from. But it's a terrific song. Maybe it's the baggage--I used to catch my dad listening to that tune late at night on LP in our little place in Utah.

Best vacation spot:
My wife and I spent a couple of days on a 40-acre horse ranch outside of Portland with a terrific couple that had us out there for some house concerts. Spring was just coming on. Lovely beyond description. May they have us back a thousand times.

Worst job you ever had:
I made sandwiches at Subway for a couple of months in high school. There were all sorts of reasons to fire me (I was disorganized, I sometimes screwed up orders, I asked for a lot of days off), but when they did fire me they told me that it was because I whistled while I worked.

Favorite venue to play in:
There's a lovely little Amphitheater in American Fork, Utah. Shabby sound system, no backstage to speak of, big flat concrete stage, not kept up worth anything. It was, I think, the result of a depression-era work project. It's within shooting distance of a dozen or so nice new high schools with slick gear and engineered spaces. But the amphitheater is where the local communities have been gathering for years around town plays, founders-day celebrations and so forth. It was the place I first stepped on stage (as third-Von-Trapp-kid-from-the-left in the town production of "The Sound of Music"). I'll play there any time I'm asked.

It was 1897, the Jubilee year of the reign of Queen Victoria, and England’s great poets were expected to celebrate the frenzy of national flag-waving by putting pen to paper. That included Rudyard Kipling, the favorite poet son of his countrymen. Oddly, in an age of celebrating conquest and growth, Kipling’s contribution was a poem called “Recessional,” and it checked the unguarded celebration of the country with a warning. It’s a poem worth reading as we prepare to spend a day with family and friends celebrating the freedoms we enjoy. Here’s just some of Kipling’s poem, “Recessional”:



God of our fathers, known of old--
Lord of our far-flung battle line
Beneath whose awful hand we hold
Dominion over palm and pine--
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

The tumult and the shouting dies;
The captains and the kings depart:
Still stands Thine ancient sacrifice,
An humble and a contrite heart.
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

Far-called, our navies melt away;
On dune and headland sinks the fire:
Lo, all our pomp of yesterday
Is one with Nineveh and Tyre!
Judge of the Nations, spare us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

If, drunk with sight of power, we loose
Wild tongues that have not Thee in awe--
Such boasting as the Gentiles use
Or lesser breeds without the law--
Lord God of Hosts, be with us yet,
Lest we forget - lest we forget!

For heathen heart that puts her trust
In reeking tube and iron shard--
All valiant dust that builds on dust,
And guarding, calls not Thee to guard--
For frantic boast and foolish word,
Thy mercy on Thy people, Lord!


God has been good to us. May his mercies continue, and may we, on a day of celebration, pause for a moment to reflect, to ponder, to pray. After all, for all the muscle we seem to throw around, the truth is, we ain't nothin' without God, who lends us breath from moment to moment.